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  The Witnesses, prestigeous & derogatory titles.

  by The Rebel in

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  in egland we give " deserving" & " high flyers" titles.. this morning i was thinking i should have named my son president.

  i am sure it would have given him a great advantage in latter life.. so my questions:-.

  do you think when a publisher becomes a " ministerial servant" or an "elder":-.

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  The only thought I now give CONVERATION is " All right for Individual Freedom" if that has nothing to do with " Religion" and we don't have to discuss " Politics" and we don't have to " agree"

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  Money, Money, Money...and Money, Money, Money

  by The Rebel in

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  i made a post of this, but feel it warrants a thread.

  in central london ( paddington) the " property management company" we refer to as jehovers witnesses, bought a church building, which is now a kingdom hall, but with the outside appearance of a church.. i got an explanation from bethel " it's just a building".

  well let's give the organisation credit for its business sence.

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  Je,suis:-

  agreed, and it never did make much sence that " Jesus" mixed with the drunks, the whores, and WORSE even the " CARPENTERS." Yet as J.Ws we avoided " such" people like they had the plague.

  I wonder if the above groups the society imply we should avoid, had money, would the society then say we should welcome them?

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  Money, Money, Money...and Money, Money, Money

  by The Rebel in

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  i made a post of this, but feel it warrants a thread.

  in central london ( paddington) the " property management company" we refer to as jehovers witnesses, bought a church building, which is now a kingdom hall, but with the outside appearance of a church.. i got an explanation from bethel " it's just a building".

  well let's give the organisation credit for its business sence.

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  found it, the former Church now a Kingdom Hall, is tucked away from what seperates Kensington from Paddinton. ( 11 Monmouth Road)

  Now if that's not a good property investment rather than religion I am religiouse.

  i am sure all the sheiks and their neighbours visit meetings regularly. Yet the society ask money for world wide donations......and they bought this when the end was just around the corner.

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  Money, Money, Money...and Money, Money, Money

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
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  i made a post of this, but feel it warrants a thread.

  in central london ( paddington) the " property management company" we refer to as jehovers witnesses, bought a church building, which is now a kingdom hall, but with the outside appearance of a church.. i got an explanation from bethel " it's just a building".

  well let's give the organisation credit for its business sence.

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  Good question Splash:-

  I am trying to find pictures because it's an impressive building more like a Cathederal than a church. ( I mean Kingdom Hall) The address is either Monmouth Road, London, W2, or Princess Square Gdns ( they are the 2 Kingdom Halls listed in Paddington)

  I am 90% certain it's Monmouth Road. Pictures would be greatly appreciated.
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  Money, Money, Money...and Money, Money, Money

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
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  i made a post of this, but feel it warrants a thread.

  in central london ( paddington) the " property management company" we refer to as jehovers witnesses, bought a church building, which is now a kingdom hall, but with the outside appearance of a church.. i got an explanation from bethel " it's just a building".

  well let's give the organisation credit for its business sence.

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  I made a post of this, but feel it warrants a thread. In CENTRAL LONDON ( Paddington) The " Property Management Company" we refer to as Jehovers Witnesses, bought a church building, which is now a Kingdom Hall, but with the outside appearance of a church.

  I got an explanation from Bethel " It's just a building"

  Well let's give the organisation CREDIT for its business sence. the building was I am sure purchased with cash and not CREDIT.

  Anyway that purchase made over 30 years ago, will I believe make 50,000000 if in the future.

  Why do I say this?

  i believe that former " church" building will obtain planning permission to be converted in to flats. Therefore those figures are not absurd this is PADDINGTON, CENTRAL LONDON,where to purchase property 12 times the national average is required for a mortgage.

  I have no problems with the business investment, but I recent a PROPERTY company hiding behind Religion.

  Now the point I want to make is that I generally believe the money donations are not what the society is interested in. I believe this is a smoke screen and that they are more interested in getting members to leave property in a will to the society.

  I say this because the society is to me " A PROPERTY COMPANY" first ( and a very RICH one) Second a religion ( and a very POOR one)

  Personally i believe I know 3 witnesses possibly leaving homes to " The Propert Company"

  Why do I think this?

  Only that I know these people asked the elders to witness the will, and I know how the society views members wealth, they want it.

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  Kingdom hall in a church complex

  by StephaneLaliberte in

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  check out this kingdom hall right in a church complex!!

  google map!

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  In the CENTRE of LONDON, ( PADDINGTON) the organisation bought a church, it is now a Kingdom Hall, but the outside is still a church building.

  I got an explanation from the bethel " it's just a building".

  I would say in my cynicle mind this was a purchase by a business lead organisation.

  But credit where credit is due, the organisation are financial geniuses.( I suspect that building was bought with cash and not credit)

  Seriously that purchase will in my opinion make 50, 000000.if in the future if the building can be converted in to flats.( My figures are not absurd this is PADDINGTON central London where property to purchase is 12 times the average income & it was purchased 30 years ago)

  This is a society that fleeces money from the congregation. Now let's talk facts, how many leave there homes to the society in wills? It's f..king discussing that this criminal activity is legal.

  Moan Over ( not)

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  David Ackles. ( find your heart and loose it)

  by The Rebel in

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  how about a thread on underrated musicians, or underrated bands most of us might not have experienced.

  personally i love discovering new musical talent i missed.. the rebel..

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  Songs from an era, create the nostalgia & sentiment of a past we once lived ( so many memories, and happy times can be remembered by putting on a song from our past)

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  OH Oh it's magic never believe it's not so"

  Pilot.

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  " Oh what ever happened to you?

  Oh what ever happened to me?

  What became of the people we used to be?

  Today went by so fast,

  The only thing to look forward to the past"

  Highly Likely.

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  JW Threatened me with Violence Today :)

  by cofty in

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  i popped into the supermarket for a few things after work today and found myself walking up an aisle alongside a couple who used to be in my tuesday group.

  i see them reasonably often and always say hello much to their obvious annoyance.

  i noticed that ian was sporting a shaggy beard.

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  I think all forms of physical violence, also does a damage to the one who inflicts it.

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  feeling of hopelessness and fear

  by 060702015 in

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  do you have feelings of hopelessness and fear for not having a religion?.

  do you envy happy jehovah witnesses and living their lives carefree?.

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  The Rebel

  D607...:-

  A) No

  B) I do not envy any group of people that think unreality is reality.

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  p.s I think your question was sincere and so gave it a green flag. ( you were lucky most times I mean to give a green flag, I give red by mistake)
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  The Witnesses, prestigeous & derogatory titles.

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in egland we give " deserving" & " high flyers" titles.. this morning i was thinking i should have named my son president.

  i am sure it would have given him a great advantage in latter life.. so my questions:-.

  do you think when a publisher becomes a " ministerial servant" or an "elder":-.

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  The Rebel

  Great points Smiddy:-

  But women can give prayer, if no baptised brothets are present, of course they have to cover their heads. ( I experienced that noncence once)

  I myself believe in no religious titles, just a word of honour and genuine fellowship for all.

  What I now write may appear rude and offensive, but MOST elders in my congregation were self- assured bastards, narrow minded and intolerant, who delighted in W.T stupidity.

  Maybe it's more polite to say I never liked or felt good in elders company. But the truth is I loathed them, and this was giving them power. Now I choose simply to forget their names.

  The Rebel.